Exclusive: Microsoft is working on an ARM-powered Surface Go 4 and new 11-inch Surface Pro
Microsoft plans wave of smaller 2-in-1 Windows tablets.
What you need to know
- Microsoft is planning to ship the Surface Go 4 with ARM for the first time.
- The Surface Go 4 with ARM will be powered by a Snapdragon 7c-based SoC.
- Microsoft is also working on a smaller Surface Pro with an 11-inch display.
Microsoft is readying a new Surface Go for release this year that will feature an ARM processor for the first time. According to my sources, the Surface Go 4 is codenamed Tanta and will ship with a Snapdragon 7c-based SoC in the entry-level model and offer similar performance to the current Surface Go but with better power efficiency for longer-lasting battery life.
I hear there may be some minor design changes on the cards for Surface Go 4 along with the new SoC, but it will still maintain a similar-sized footprint to previous models. The new SoC may also allow Microsoft to ship a Surface Go with 5G for the first time, though that SKU isn't yet confirmed to ship. An Intel variant is also expected to stick around for customers who want or prefer it.
In addition to a Surface Go 4 with ARM, I’m starting to hear whispers that Microsoft is also planning to ship a new Surface Pro in two sizes, similar to what Apple is doing with the iPad Pro. Alongside the typical 13-inch Surface Pro that we’re all familiar with, Microsoft is building a new 11-inch Surface Pro as well.
The 11-inch Surface Pro is codenamed Luxor and will be similar in shape and size to that of the Surface Go, albeit with slimmer bezels like its larger sibling. Of course, the 11-inch Surface Pro will also be more powerful, with a better 120Hz display compared to the budget-conscious Surface Go line, which will still maintain a low-entry price point.
Windows 11 was recently updated with a new tablet mode that works better on devices with smaller screens. The taskbar now minimizes out-of-view when an app is open. On devices with 11-inch screens or less, apps automatically open full screen to mimic better the tablet experience found on an iPad or Android tablet.
I’m told that this trend will continue throughout this year and into the next version of Windows, which is currently expected to ship at the end of 2024. More tablet optimizations are coming, including a more touch-friendly File Explorer, lock/login screen, and desktop environment. This might explain Microsoft’s sudden interest in shipping a new entry-level and flagship 11-inch tablet.
Regarding timing for the new Surface Go and Surface Pro, things are still in flux, but my sources say it’s unlikely you’ll see them ship before this fall (and even then, things might get pushed back further). Microsoft had initially planned to ship the new Surface Go this spring, but I hear that plan has now changed. Microsoft will also need to wait for Qualcomm to begin shipping its new Nuvia chips before it can ship the next Surface Pro too.
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dkstrauss Dear Mr. Panay - Windows Central and numerous other sites have followed the work of independent developers who have ported both Windows 10X and 11 to the original Surface Duo. Boost your courage, stand up to Nadella, and deliver the REAL Surface Mini (preferably in the moleskine inspired Surface Duo design) with FULL 8cx power, 5g, and 16gb/512gb glory running Windows 11 - no watered down underpowered processors or Android half-tries.Reply -
R K7
I have been buying desktops and laptops for 40 years and have never purchased an underpowered computing device. Nor have I ever heard a friend or colleague describe their laptop or desktop as underpowered. Finally, I have never seen anyone provide any evidence to support their clam of "underpowered"...dkstrauss said:Dear Mr. Panay - Windows Central and numerous other sites have followed the work of independent developers who have ported both Windows 10X and 11 to the original Surface Duo. Boost your courage, stand up to Nadella, and deliver the REAL Surface Mini (preferably in the moleskine inspired Surface Duo design) with FULL 8cx power, 5g, and 16gb/512gb glory running Windows 11 - no watered down underpowered processors or Android half-tries. -
scoots37 Here's hoping the smaller pro ditches the large chin and forehead bezel, or at least shrinks them a good amount. The surface laptop go looks so much more premium than all the flagship sufaces with it's slim and (almost) symmetrical bezels. I just haven't warmed up to a lot of current surface designs latelyReply -
LumiaWin8 please actually release 🙏🤞Reply
please be somewhat decent as a basic consumption/note device
please look somewhat decent (OG Surface Pro X, but in small or Lumia like)
I have been waiting for a mini Lumia/Surface tablet since around the 2014 Lumia 2020 and the shortly before launch cancelled "Surface Mini" - both of which Zac revealed a good while ago. -
dkxs 11-in Surface Pro is what I have been waiting for since I first started using surface RT 10 years ago. Over the years I have used Surface RT 2, Surface Pro 3, Surface 3, Surface Go (now typing this comment on Go). I really love the form factor of Go, but I hope the specs get bumped up like a Pro, especially the display. Go series' screen resolution is terrible. I have been using 1440P screen on mobile phone since many years ago and 90Hz screen since 4 years ago. I really hope there is a small surface that has a great display with ppi more than or close to 300 and refresh rate at 120Hz.Reply -
dkstrauss More thoughts on the 11" (Luxor?) Surface Pro 10 needed featuresReply
A fanless Core i5 processor option
5g on the Intel version as wellAt least a 16gb ram option
512gb and 1tb storage options
Thunderbolt 4 (at least two)PLEASE do not limit it to WOA only, especially for the 5g SKU - we NEED 5g in the Intel models as well -
Iamdumbguy
Goofy stuff here. The only real application for smaller (literally smaller screen devices) Windows is for devices like Steam Deck. And most of that is just getting Windows out of the way to essentially start a launcher in kiosk mode. Why would you want a Windows phone without the phone part?dkstrauss said:Dear Mr. Panay - Windows Central and numerous other sites have followed the work of independent developers who have ported both Windows 10X and 11 to the original Surface Duo. Boost your courage, stand up to Nadella, and deliver the REAL Surface Mini (preferably in the moleskine inspired Surface Duo design) with FULL 8cx power, 5g, and 16gb/512gb glory running Windows 11 - no watered down underpowered processors or Android half-tries. -
dkstrauss Iamdumbguy said:11 inch Pro is so silly. If anything, we need 16" Pros.
There is NOTHING silly or goofy about either of these observations. The "WinPad" (a full power ultra-portable convertible based on the iPad Pro dimensions) has been the dream machine of many road warriors for years, and unfortunately the Surface Go is just too underpowered to give you that performance when docked as your PC at your desk. All you have to do is look around the blogs for the support for Surface Neo to see demand. Zac's report of an i5 class performance, if it delivers 5g, would make this a single device solution.Iamdumbguy said:Goofy stuff here. The only real application for smaller (literally smaller screen devices) Windows is for devices like Steam Deck. And most of that is just getting Windows out of the way to essentially start a launcher in kiosk mode. Why would you want a Windows phone without the phone part?
Same goes for a full powered digital moleskin replacement in the Surface Duo form factor. Relying on Google Android, which has YET to deliver an ARM compatible version of Chrome, and now their biggest competitor in the AI market, is a folly. The Surface Duo is still the best hardware in folding devices (single screen folding devices cannot hold a candle to the Duo) for any productivity application on the go.
Zac - still no updates on the 11" Surface Pro?