Confirmed: Forza Horizon 5 is the next title to make the leap from Xbox to PlayStation
Further to Microsoft's pledge to make Xbox more profitable, one of their biggest franchises is arriving on PlayStation soon.

The next Xbox game being ported over to PlayStation 5 is Playground Games' Forza Horizon 5, the Xbox teams revealed on Thursday.
Over the past year, Microsoft has made no secret of its plan to begin launching more and more games on the PlayStation ecosystem. Sea of Thieves was among the first, then Indiana Jones was announced, and now, Microsoft is going even further.
Forza Horizon 5 is one of Microsoft's most successful games in history, serving tens of millions of players. The flagship racing game is the gold standard for the genre, and is a multi-award winner. It's also a huge money maker for Microsoft, owing to its live service nature, on-going updates, and in-app purchases. Forza Horizon 5 first launched back on Xbox Series X, Xbox Series S, Xbox One, and Windows PC in November 21. The game was a roaring success, rapidly reaching over 20 million players and, like its predecessors, achieving critical acclaim.
Shared with us via sources initially, and then confirmed by Microsoft on Forza Horizon 5's website, developer Playground Games discussed its partnership with Panic Button, and a new update coming dubbed "Realms."
"The PlayStation 5 version of Forza Horizon 5, developed by Panic Button Studios in partnership with Turn 10 Studios and Playground Games, will have the same content as the Xbox and PC releases of the game. Previously released Car Packs, as well as the Hot Wheels and Rally Adventure expansions, will also be available for purchase.
We are excited to see the Forza Horizon 5 community grow with new players on PS5, and we can't wait to see the creativity and skill these new creators, builders, and racers will bring to our vibrant community.
In addition to bringing Forza Horizon 5 to PS5, we’re working on a special new free content update for all platforms, Horizon Realms. Realms will give players the chance to explore a curated collection of some of the community’s favorite previously released Evolving Worlds, alongside some other surprises. Stay tuned to our channels for more details soon."
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Only yesterday, Microsoft talked to investors about the desire to turn Xbox into a business with higher profit margins, and one way to do that is to sell games. Forza Horizon 5 has likely done all it can do on Xbox Series X|S and PC at this point, so porting it to PlayStation is a sure-fire way to guarantee additional revenue and prestige for the franchise. What is less clear is how the degraded status of "Xbox console exclusives," particularly among its most iconic games, will impact hardware sales going forward. Already, Microsoft has seen decline after decline quarter over quarter with Xbox Series X|S hardware sales, and reducing the reasons to buy a console could potentially only further exacerbate that situation.
Regardless, Microsoft says it's all-in on next-gen Xbox console hardware, though, with Xbox CEO Phil Spencer describing a goal to win on hardware differentiation, rather than exclusive games.
Expect Xbox to expand more games across more platforms
While Xbox has technically been a third-party publisher to some extent since the Microsoft bought Minecraft developer Mojang in 2014, the company's third-party publishing plans have ramped up significantly in the past year. As noted, in 2024, Microsoft brought four previously console-exclusive Xbox games to PlayStation and Nintendo, including Rare's massive pirate simulator Sea of Thieves. The company also confirmed plans to bring Bethesda Softworks and Machine Games' Indiana Jones and the Great Circle to PlayStation 5 in 2025, a few months after its initial launch on Xbox and PC. We've also reported via our own sources that Xbox icon itself, Halo, is gearing up for a PlayStation debut. Forza is one of the "big three" iconic Xbox franchises, including Gears of War and Halo. With Forza heading across, it should shed all doubts that Xbox truly does have no red lines over what games will eventually move away from Xbox towards PlayStation.
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Looking ahead, several (but not all) of the upcoming games in the Xbox first-party roster are planned to launch across PlayStation 5, including DOOM: The Dark Ages, The Outer Worlds 2, and Ninja Gaiden 4.
Xbox fans stand to benefit from Xbox Game Pass, however, which will save them potentially hundreds of dollars over time if they plan to play any game from the Xbox first party roster. Games like Avowed (launching in February), Fable, Gears of War: E-Day, State of Decay 3, and many more as-of-yet unannounced games will also hit Xbox Game Pass day and date — which remains best on Xbox console hardware arguably.
Xbox reportedly became the world's biggest publisher as of last month, so the strategy is doubtless paying dividends for shareholders. Whether or not it keeps Xbox's digital software store viable long term remains to be seen. What is confirmed is that Forza Horizon 5 is a certified banger, and it'll most likely find a huge new audience on the massive PlayStation ecosystem.
Samuel Tolbert is a freelance writer covering gaming news, previews, reviews, interviews and different aspects of the gaming industry, specifically focusing on Xbox and PC gaming on Windows Central. You can find him on Twitter @SamuelTolbert.
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Papictu Xbox Series is almost dead, in a year or two I imagine support for the system will cease and users will no longer have the confidence to use the Xbox Store. It's been a terrible generation for Xbox, they are seeding an impossible scenario for a next console to stand a chance.Reply
I've been playing on Xbox for 20 years, I hope that before it disappears they get some agreement with Steam or Playstation to be able to export our profiles to these systems and continue there, it would be very sad to see how the profiles, hours of gameplay and achievements unlocked are lost. -
RagingTyga I disagree, these past few years have been the best it's been to be an xbox user. There's been nothing but absolutely BANGERS available on GP, and they keep coming and it's very hard to keep up. Indiana Jones, Call of Duty BO6,Flinlock, Palworld, Ninja Gaiden Black 2, and games I never made it to, like Octopath Traveler 1&2 etc...Then you got Doom, Avowed, it's nuts.Reply
The only thing Microsoft is doing, is releasing these games on other platforms, which brings in revenue which helps cover the cost of putting them on Gamepass...which is genius in my opinion. Playstation and PC gamers are literally subsidizing the games that come out on Gamepass. The benefit is Microsoft doesn't have to worry about the Hardware sales, and they can focus on making the next gen hardware better when that comes, instead of just "good enough". Plus, it's helping them learn and gain ideas from what's happening in the market, especially now with Gaming handhelds -
fatpunkslim What is less clear is how the degraded status of "Xbox console exclusives," particularly among its most iconic games, will impact hardware sales going forward
Forza Horizon 5 was released in 2021, 4 years later on playstation. Do you think a player is willing to wait 4 years to play a game? Basically like SOT, another GAAS, After reaching its full potential.
What is the purpose of an exclusive game? To attract players to its ecosystem (gamepass or consoles or both, ....)! For it to work, this exclusivity period must be frustrating enough to push a player to go to your ecosystem. I think that from 1 to 2 years, it's sufficiently frustrating to push a player who wants to play this game to go to your ecosystem.
So, a long enough temporary exclusivity has the same positive effect (or almost) as a permanent exclusivity.
But does a permanent exclusivity exist? Who can today, on this industry situation, say that an exclusivity will be permanent? Even PlayStation can't, especially given the direction they are taking.
It's fine that Forza Horizon 5 comes out on PlayStation. The game has reached its potential and has done its job of attracting players to Xbox.
I think we won't have to wait long to hear about the release of Forza Horizon 6. And that would be very smart:
The new revenues from Forza Horizon 5 will help amortize the development costs of Forza Horizon 6.
It will help introduce the franchise to PlayStation players and make them want to play the sequel, knowing that FH6 won't be released on other platforms right away. It would create frustration and push players towards the Xbox ecosystem (Game Pass on PC and/or Xbox consoles).
So it's a very good move ! (Moreover, all the buzz around an Xbox game going to PlayStation will only boost sales, it's really well played) -
fjtorres5591
You realize logic is wasted on the fen, right?fatpunkslim said:Forza Horizon 5 was released in 2021, 4 years later on playstation. Do you think a player is willing to wait 4 years to play a game? Basically like SOT, another GAAS, After reaching its full potential.
What is the purpose of an exclusive game? To attract players to its ecosystem (gamepass or consoles or both, ....)! For it to work, this exclusivity period must be frustrating enough to push a player to go to your ecosystem. I think that from 1 to 2 years, it's sufficiently frustrating to push a player who wants to play this game to go to your ecosystem.
So, a long enough temporary exclusivity has the same positive effect (or almost) as a permanent exclusivity.
But does a permanent exclusivity exist? Who can today, on this industry situation, say that an exclusivity will be permanent? Even PlayStation can't, especially given the direction they are taking.
It's fine that Forza Horizon 5 comes out on PlayStation. The game has reached its potential and has done its job of attracting players to Xbox.
I think we won't have to wait long to hear about the release of Forza Horizon 6. And that would be very smart:
The new revenues from Forza Horizon 5 will help amortize the development costs of Forza Horizon 6.
It will help introduce the franchise to PlayStation players and make them want to play the sequel, knowing that FH6 won't be released on other platforms right away. It would create frustration and push players towards the Xbox ecosystem (Game Pass on PC and/or Xbox consoles).
So it's a very good move ! (Moreover, all the buzz around an Xbox game going to PlayStation will only boost sales, it's really well played)
It's HORIZON not MOTORSPORT.
4 YEARS OLD and a live service time sink; yet another way to eat into Sony's customers' money bags to fund the NextBox which now has another reason to come in 2026. 😎
No date set yet for PS5 INDIANA JONES, right?
My guess was June. Right after the big XBOX summer event, when XBOX gamers have moved on. -
CadErik This could revive the game and the multiplayer experience, esp since it is a 4+ year old game. This is one of my favorite racing games, from the intro, to the landscapes and some of the iconic locations - everybody wins having this one on PS5.Reply -
Hsg
I have my doubts about Forza Horizon 6 being a timed exclusive. Games like The Outer Worlds 2 and Ninja Gaiden 4 are coming to PS day one. It seems that the newest Xbox games will also be like that.fatpunkslim said:Forza Horizon 5 was released in 2021, 4 years later on playstation. Do you think a player is willing to wait 4 years to play a game? Basically like SOT, another GAAS, After reaching its full potential.
What is the purpose of an exclusive game? To attract players to its ecosystem (gamepass or consoles or both, ....)! For it to work, this exclusivity period must be frustrating enough to push a player to go to your ecosystem. I think that from 1 to 2 years, it's sufficiently frustrating to push a player who wants to play this game to go to your ecosystem.
So, a long enough temporary exclusivity has the same positive effect (or almost) as a permanent exclusivity.
But does a permanent exclusivity exist? Who can today, on this industry situation, say that an exclusivity will be permanent? Even PlayStation can't, especially given the direction they are taking.
It's fine that Forza Horizon 5 comes out on PlayStation. The game has reached its potential and has done its job of attracting players to Xbox.
I think we won't have to wait long to hear about the release of Forza Horizon 6. And that would be very smart:
The new revenues from Forza Horizon 5 will help amortize the development costs of Forza Horizon 6.
It will help introduce the franchise to PlayStation players and make them want to play the sequel, knowing that FH6 won't be released on other platforms right away. It would create frustration and push players towards the Xbox ecosystem (Game Pass on PC and/or Xbox consoles).
So it's a very good move ! (Moreover, all the buzz around an Xbox game going to PlayStation will only boost sales, it's really well played) -
fatpunkslim
Doubts based on what? FH5 follows the same logic as Sea of Thieves, it's an old GAAS game that has reached its full potential.Hsg said:I have my doubts about Forza Horizon 6 being a timed exclusive. Games like The Outer Worlds 2 and Ninja Gaiden 4 are coming to PS day one. It seems that the newest Xbox games will also be like that.
The Outer Worlds has always been multiplatform, so it has no relevance, and Ninja Gaiden 4 is not an Xbox first-party game, so that's also off-topic.
@CadErik: exactly, Win Win -
fjtorres5591
Four years delay on HORIZON 5.Hsg said:I have my doubts about Forza Horizon 6 being a timed exclusive. Games like The Outer Worlds 2 and Ninja Gaiden 4 are coming to PS day one. It seems that the newest Xbox games will also be like that.
That makes it timed.
Consider that NINJA GAIDEN is second party, not an inhouse studio game.
Not comparable.
And OUTER WORLDS was multiplatform before MS bought OBSIDIAN. Spencer long ago said they were not looking to take games away from anybody. So yes, OUTER WORLDS 2 will go everywhere the first went, just like COD, DOOM, MINECRAFT, et al.
Is the distinction that hard to follow?
"Case by case."
Seriously, what does it matter to XBOX gsmers if a four year old *live service* shows up elsewhere? Live service games benefit from a broad reach. What's the loss? Bragging rights? "Nyah-nyah, we got Forza Horizon!" Why does it matter that EXPEDITION 33 is multiplatform if you get it day one on game pass and "they" have to pay $70? If you need to brag, brag about that.
Here's two hypotheticals: how old is the MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION? Or what about free to play, live service HALO INFINITY?
What do you buy XBOX consoles for? To play games or to thumb your nose at the rest of the kids? Live and let die. And take Spencer at his word: Some XBOX games will go to other boxes, some will stay exclusive.
And, FWIW, the FORZA that matters to XBOX is the FORZA MOTORSPORT series, the serious driving simulator, not the "lite" live service game. Fun, yes, but people don't spend hundreds of bucks in accessories for HORIZON. -
HeyCori The ever decreasing number of exclusives puts me in a very peculiar situation. My favorite games for the past several years have been either multi-plat or Xbox exclusive. I don't have a PS4 or 5 because I'm not big on Sony's exclusives. In fact, out of the three PS exclusives that I wanted to play, I played them on PC. Days Gone (mediocre), Horizon Zero Dawn (kind of dull), and Final Fantasy 7 Remake (meh). So I'm in no rush to get a PlayStation 5 for their exclusives. But it's definitely more tempting knowing that Microsoft will (likely) bring more of their titles, even newer titles, to PlayStation at a faster pace.Reply
The logical thing to do is get a PC, PS5, and call it a day. Buuuuuut the PS5 doesn't have Game Pass. GP is pretty much how I play all my games nowadays. And even when I do buy a game, I can very easily wait until it's on a deep sale because I already got plenty on GP to pass the time. Technically, I can use my GP sub to play games on PC... I just don't want to. There was a time in my life when building and playing PC games was super neat. Now I spend 8+ hours solving computer hardware problems, and when I get home, I grab my Surface Pro and revel in its simplicity. I have a gaming laptop, and I will occasionally dip in if I have to. Otherwise, I prefer consoles.
So just stick with Xbox hardware, right? Well, Microsoft can hee and haw all they want about how they're not getting out of the hardware business, but we've seen this playbook before. They'll swear up and down that they won't do a thing before eventually doing that exact thing. I could see Microsoft staying in the hardware business just long enough to fulfill existing contractual obligations to manufacturers. Or only doing handhelds, or only Series S style consoles. Or giving up on competing on hardware entirely. Pretty much any damn thing can happen with Xbox hardware, but rest assured, something will happen in response to constantly declining sales. Because if MS gets out of the hardware business, then all their games will be PC and PS5. After all, Microsoft isn't Nintendo. Even when Nintendo was suffering horrific console sales, they never ported their games to a competitor's system. Not only has Microsoft started to, they're deep in it.
I'm pondering if I should stay the course and hope the other shoe doesn't drop? Learn to love PC gaming again? Buy a PS5? As the saying goes, time will tell. -
fjtorres5591
Wait a bit.HeyCori said:The ever decreasing number of exclusives puts me in a very peculiar situation. My favorite games for the past several years have been either multi-plat or Xbox exclusive. I don't have a PS4 or 5 because I'm not big on Sony's exclusives. In fact, out of the three PS exclusives that I wanted to play, I played them on PC. Days Gone (mediocre), Horizon Zero Dawn (kind of dull), and Final Fantasy 7 Remake (meh). So I'm in no rush to get a PlayStation 5 for their exclusives. But it's definitely more tempting knowing that Microsoft will (likely) bring more of their titles, even newer titles, to PlayStation at a faster pace.
The logical thing to do is get a PC, PS5, and call it a day. Buuuuuut the PS5 doesn't have Game Pass. GP is pretty much how I play all my games nowadays. And even when I do buy a game, I can very easily wait until it's on a deep sale because I already got plenty on GP to pass the time. Technically, I can use my GP sub to play games on PC... I just don't want to. There was a time in my life when building and playing PC games was super neat. Now I spend 8+ hours solving computer hardware problems, and when I get home, I grab my Surface Pro and revel in its simplicity. I have a gaming laptop, and I will occasionally dip in if I have to. Otherwise, I prefer consoles.
So just stick with Xbox hardware, right? Well, Microsoft can hee and haw all they want about how they're not getting out of the hardware business, but we've seen this playbook before. They'll swear up and down that they won't do a thing before eventually doing that exact thing. I could see Microsoft staying in the hardware business just long enough to fulfill existing contractual obligations to manufacturers. Or only doing handhelds, or only Series S style consoles. Or giving up on competing on hardware entirely. Pretty much any damn thing can happen with Xbox hardware, but rest assured, something will happen in response to constantly declining sales. Because if MS gets out of the hardware business, then all their games will be PC and PS5. After all, Microsoft isn't Nintendo. Even when Nintendo was suffering horrific console sales, they never ported their games to a competitor's system. Not only has Microsoft started to, they're deep in it.
I'm pondering if I should stay the course and hope the other shoe doesn't drop? Learn to love PC gaming again? Buy a PS5? As the saying goes, time will tell.
Odds are high and getting higher that the next XBOX will be windows compatible.
(They already are but they don't offer the option. Yet.)
Remember that the XBOX is actually a locked down Windows box. Remember that Bond talked of *forward* compatibility. And that they have mentioned bringing in STEAM and the other Windows game stores. Plus there's the rumor that they will be licensing the XBOX OS to OEMs.
Add it all up and you end up with XBOX as the gaming equivalent of SURFACE.
An installable subsystem for high security PCs, like the Posix, Linux, and (deprecated) Android subsystems.
Want a cheap gaming PC? XBOX. Figure two new models (handheld and living room) and the Series boxes stay as the low end. (I'm betting on a clamshell flip up screen and detachable controllers for the handheld.)
Got the money for a higher end OEM XBOX?
Dell, HP, Lenovo, ACER, ASUS, will fight for your $800+ of money. Regardless, all will pay your library of games, all will offer Game Pass.
While everybody worries about multiplatform software, MS is actually switching to "multiplatform" *hardware*. All the flexibility of PC, all the simplicity of XBOX (if you want it). And how is Sony going to match new XBOX models every year from different OEMs? Coding their PC software not to run on anything with XBOX OS as an option? Giving up on PC? They need that money.
XBOX already changed the rules on software, next they'll change the rules on hardware. Because software is a profit center subsidized and console hardware is a cost center. And because MS always wanted Windows to be the dominant gaming hardware.
It's just tea leaf reading but the leaves have text on them. 😎
They've told us what they're doing.
Listen to them!